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Clips from Let The Fire Burn (2013)

On his knees? Was he crawling along the garage floor?

"On his knees? Was he crawling along the garage floor?"

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Now, when they did come out, I see the smaller child come out,

"Now, when they did come out, I see the smaller child come out,"

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and then an adult male come out right behind them.

"and then an adult male come out right behind them."

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Yeah.

"Yeah."

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and fired, like, four or five quick shots.

"and fired, like, four or five quick shots."

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Did Conrad have a rifle or a gun...

"Did Conrad have a rifle or a gun..."

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when he went out the garage door?

"when he went out the garage door?"

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What did he use to open the bolt on the door?

"What did he use to open the bolt on the door?"

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A big monkey wrench?

"A big monkey wrench?"

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Are you certain it was a rifle and not a monkey wrench or something of that nature?

"Are you certain it was a rifle and not a monkey wrench or something of that nature?"

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And when this male pointed this rifle up,

"And when this male pointed this rifle up,"

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I- in other words, I could hear sound and see muzzle flashes.

"I- in other words, I could hear sound and see muzzle flashes."

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Like it was going-Bullets were going after each other. Like-

"Like it was going-Bullets were going after each other. Like-"

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Bullets were going one right after the other.

"Bullets were going one right after the other."

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- Something like that? - Yeah.

"- Something like that? - Yeah."

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It was not automatic fire, if that's what you're asking.

"It was not automatic fire, if that's what you're asking."

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Okay, could you just try and indicate for me what it sounded like?

"Okay, could you just try and indicate for me what it sounded like?"

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Did you ever fire your weapons after the bomb was dropped, officer Mulvihill?

"Did you ever fire your weapons after the bomb was dropped, officer Mulvihill?"

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No, sir.

"No, sir."

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- Officer D'Ulisse? - No, sir.

"- Officer D'Ulisse? - No, sir."

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He had two officers taking him out, and then they started shooting again,

"He had two officers taking him out, and then they started shooting again,"

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and then they brought him back in, and then they locked the thing back up.

"and then they brought him back in, and then they locked the thing back up."

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Did you see the child actually go back into the house?

"Did you see the child actually go back into the house?"

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All right.

"All right."

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Yes.

"Yes."

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sort of to regroup.

"sort of to regroup."

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Well,

"Well,"

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just as a human being myself...

"just as a human being myself..."

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I'm just trying to imagine myself in that situation...

"I'm just trying to imagine myself in that situation..."

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and behind me there's a raging inferno...

"and behind me there's a raging inferno..."

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I don't think we said anything other than come down to us.

"I don't think we said anything other than come down to us."

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Come on down with your hands up-

"Come on down with your hands up-"

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the normal police jargon for calling the suspects to come down.

"the normal police jargon for calling the suspects to come down."

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Mm-hmm.

"Mm-hmm."

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I'm just saying that I'm trying to put myself in that person's skin.

"I'm just saying that I'm trying to put myself in that person's skin."

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Sir, I don't think you ever could. These were MOVE members.

"Sir, I don't think you ever could. These were MOVE members."

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Well, you see,

"Well, you see,"

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I knew a lot of those people...

"I knew a lot of those people..."

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as individuals and as human beings.

"as individuals and as human beings."

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A lot of people know MOVE from what they may have seen.

"A lot of people know MOVE from what they may have seen."

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and I knew them to be more than MOVE people.

"and I knew them to be more than MOVE people."

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I don't think you, from the way you've

"I don't think you, from the way you've"

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No, sir.

"No, sir."

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And then what happened to Tomaso?

"And then what happened to Tomaso?"

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Rhonda was going like this on his back.

"Rhonda was going like this on his back."

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- Rhonda had Tomaso? - Mm-hmm.

"- Rhonda had Tomaso? - Mm-hmm."

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And she was hitting him on his back?

"And she was hitting him on his back?"

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He had stopped crying?

"He had stopped crying?"

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Did you hear him cry anymore...

"Did you hear him cry anymore..."

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Only one time.

"Only one time."

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- And then what happened? - He stopped.

"- And then what happened? - He stopped."

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He stopped?

"He stopped?"

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And then what happened?

"And then what happened?"

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the flames are probably now leaping, um,

"the flames are probably now leaping, um,"

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uh, 10 stories high.

"uh, 10 stories high."

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I remember Ramona coming from the rear of the MOVE yard over the fence and down.

"I remember Ramona coming from the rear of the MOVE yard over the fence and down."

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And then I see Birdie.

"And then I see Birdie."

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and he hopped over that and he started coming down.

"and he hopped over that and he started coming down."

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What did you see when you first ran out of the house?

"What did you see when you first ran out of the house?"

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The tree was on fire, and the house was.

"The tree was on fire, and the house was."

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And the house was on fire? How about on the ground?

"And the house was on fire? How about on the ground?"

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Was anything on the ground on fire?

"Was anything on the ground on fire?"

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Pieces of fire from the tree were falling down?

"Pieces of fire from the tree were falling down?"

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Ramona's up top.

"Ramona's up top."

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Now, as they're coming down, Ramona's a little bit in the front.

"Now, as they're coming down, Ramona's a little bit in the front."

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But at one time does Ramona stop...

"But at one time does Ramona stop..."

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on the bottom of the concrete wall where the fence meets.

"on the bottom of the concrete wall where the fence meets."

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But Birdie fell back. He went back.

"But Birdie fell back. He went back."

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The impression I was left with- He landed square on his head.

"The impression I was left with- He landed square on his head."

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and you hear a thud,

"and you hear a thud,"

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That's the same sensation I think we all got,

"That's the same sensation I think we all got,"

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that we knew Birdie was hurt at this time.

"that we knew Birdie was hurt at this time."

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It was an actual feeling. We could all feel it.

"It was an actual feeling. We could all feel it."

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I said, Tommy, here. Take my shotgun. I said, I'm gonna go get the kid.

"I said, Tommy, here. Take my shotgun. I said, I'm gonna go get the kid."

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And I remember him saying to me, I'll cover you.

"And I remember him saying to me, I'll cover you."

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- Officer Mellor saying that? - That's right.

"- Officer Mellor saying that? - That's right."

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and that's the first time I realized officer Tursi was behind me.

"and that's the first time I realized officer Tursi was behind me."

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I don't know how to explain it other than a sixth sense or something...

"I don't know how to explain it other than a sixth sense or something..."

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I was scared to death. I just didn't wanna let that kid lay there like that.

"I was scared to death. I just didn't wanna let that kid lay there like that."

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So what did you do?

"So what did you do?"

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This is the result of officer Tursi saying be careful.

"This is the result of officer Tursi saying be careful."

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and he said, I got you covered.

"and he said, I got you covered."

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I remember I went in underneath with my right hand,

"I remember I went in underneath with my right hand,"

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I don't remember. As soon as he hit the water, I went.

"I don't remember. As soon as he hit the water, I went."

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I remember as soon as I scooped him up,

"I remember as soon as I scooped him up,"

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or were there any other grown-ups still in the house?

"or were there any other grown-ups still in the house?"

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- You said there were other kids still there? - Mm-hmm.

"- You said there were other kids still there? - Mm-hmm."

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Tree,

"Tree,"

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Netta,

"Netta,"

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Phil,

"Phil,"

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The child being treated here at Children's...

"The child being treated here at Children's..."

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is suffering from second-and third-degree burns on his arms and legs.

"is suffering from second-and third-degree burns on his arms and legs."

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All night long, an increasing number of firemen...

"All night long, an increasing number of firemen..."

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have been trying to battle what is now a six-alarm blaze.

"have been trying to battle what is now a six-alarm blaze."

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There's a lot more water being trained on it,

"There's a lot more water being trained on it,"

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but it looks as though this is going to burn for a long, long time.

"but it looks as though this is going to burn for a long, long time."

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We had a difficult problem.

"We had a difficult problem."

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We made a difficult decision.

"We made a difficult decision."

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It did not turn out as we intended.

"It did not turn out as we intended."

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I ask your prayers for our city,

"I ask your prayers for our city,"

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for the homeless families...

"for the homeless families..."

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and for the families of those who've lost lives.

"and for the families of those who've lost lives."

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were the most happiest bunch of people you could ever know.

"were the most happiest bunch of people you could ever know."

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We were a family, peaceful, loving.

"We were a family, peaceful, loving."

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MOVE was harassed a great deal.

"MOVE was harassed a great deal."

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We were beat many, many times.

"We were beat many, many times."

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who are no different than you or I.

"who are no different than you or I."

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why and how this system convicted nine people of murdering one cop.

"why and how this system convicted nine people of murdering one cop."

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that the system had one intention in both confrontations,

"that the system had one intention in both confrontations,"

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to either kill MOVE people or to put us in prison as long as possible.

"to either kill MOVE people or to put us in prison as long as possible."

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Was it like being in a war?

"Was it like being in a war?"

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I thought about my kids.

"I thought about my kids."

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I thought about a lot of things. But to sit here-l don't know.

"I thought about a lot of things. But to sit here-l don't know."

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I am, uh-

"I am, uh-"

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I've, uh, been sitting here listening for many days...

"I've, uh, been sitting here listening for many days..."

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and I've read scores of pages of reports and testimony.

"and I've read scores of pages of reports and testimony."

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And it has all been. All of it.

"And it has all been. All of it."

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And if there's any hope in this whole sorry situation,

"And if there's any hope in this whole sorry situation,"

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it's because of that officer, and I wanna thank him.

"it's because of that officer, and I wanna thank him."

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and I wanna thank you for taking all this time to come in here and chat with us.

"and I wanna thank you for taking all this time to come in here and chat with us."

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