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Clips from Let The Fire Burn (2013)

And I wanna thank your dad, Mr. Ward.

"And I wanna thank your dad, Mr. Ward."

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you the people, have all the principal facts...

"you the people, have all the principal facts..."

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Rarely has any community ever subjected itself...

"Rarely has any community ever subjected itself..."

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to a public self-appraisal...

"to a public self-appraisal..."

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as painful and necessary as this has been.

"as painful and necessary as this has been."

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But we believe that this process is absolutely necessary...

"But we believe that this process is absolutely necessary..."

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That's pretty good. How about a little bit louder than that? Yes.

"That's pretty good. How about a little bit louder than that? Yes."

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from its house on the 6200 block of Osage Avenue.

"from its house on the 6200 block of Osage Avenue."

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Fellow officer, James Ramp, was killed seven years ago.

"Fellow officer, James Ramp, was killed seven years ago."

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You can call the group reactionists, revolutionaries, terrorists.

"You can call the group reactionists, revolutionaries, terrorists."

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It was one of the most devastating days in the modern history of the city.

"It was one of the most devastating days in the modern history of the city."

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Six, five, four, three...

"Six, five, four, three..."

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Uh, I was indoctrinated with a philosophy in the Panthers...

"Uh, I was indoctrinated with a philosophy in the Panthers..."

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All the answers are in the guidelines, their bible left by John Africa.

"All the answers are in the guidelines, their bible left by John Africa."

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Philadelphia needs Frank Rizzo as mayor.

"Philadelphia needs Frank Rizzo as mayor."

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But you are not animals. I mean...

"But you are not animals. I mean..."

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When Reverend Audrey Bronson wants to practice her religion, nobody beats her up.

"When Reverend Audrey Bronson wants to practice her religion, nobody beats her up."

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it's not done that way.

"it's not done that way."

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Where is it written that we could not have a religion of our own?

"Where is it written that we could not have a religion of our own?"

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John Africa was the founder of the MOVE organization.

"John Africa was the founder of the MOVE organization."

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And I said John Africa was the founder of the MOVE organization.

"And I said John Africa was the founder of the MOVE organization."

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John-Vincent Leapheart is my brother.

"John-Vincent Leapheart is my brother."

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guiltless, and under the circumstances, vulnerable child and youngster.

"guiltless, and under the circumstances, vulnerable child and youngster."

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- Did they ever holler at you? - Yes.

"- Did they ever holler at you? - Yes."

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- Did they-Did they say they loved you? - Yeah.

"- Did they-Did they say they loved you? - Yeah."

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I came in contact with MOVE back in 1974.

"I came in contact with MOVE back in 1974."

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Did they appear to you to be violent at all?

"Did they appear to you to be violent at all?"

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pretty much concerned about the issues...

"pretty much concerned about the issues..."

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Officer Cresse, directing your attention to approximately March 30 of 1976,

"Officer Cresse, directing your attention to approximately March 30 of 1976,"

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situation that arose with regard to an infant?

"situation that arose with regard to an infant?"

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What happened next is the beginning of a

"What happened next is the beginning of a"

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In my view, it seemed to suggest a turning point.

"In my view, it seemed to suggest a turning point."

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They named the game. And I assure you, they lose.

"They named the game. And I assure you, they lose."

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Shots have been fired!

"Shots have been fired!"

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Officer Ramp, shown here lying on his back,

"Officer Ramp, shown here lying on his back,"

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injured several others, people who threaten to blow up people's houses,

"injured several others, people who threaten to blow up people's houses,"

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can solve the problem facing our city.

"can solve the problem facing our city."

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A long time ago? Why did you want to leave MOVE?

"A long time ago? Why did you want to leave MOVE?"

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'Cause we couldn't do what other kids do.

"'Cause we couldn't do what other kids do."

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Uh, what were the other children allowed to do

"Uh, what were the other children allowed to do"

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Who'd you tell?

"Who'd you tell?"

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Do you know what's going on here?

"Do you know what's going on here?"

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Anything that was vile, they would go into it.

"Anything that was vile, they would go into it."

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Wasn't nothin' else she could do.

"Wasn't nothin' else she could do."

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did change.

"did change."

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and asked John Africa if he wanted you to be cycled or killed...

"and asked John Africa if he wanted you to be cycled or killed..."

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had used their children, uh, as if they were hostages?

"had used their children, uh, as if they were hostages?"

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You've said they came out holding their children up as shields.

"You've said they came out holding their children up as shields."

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but I think to the layman,

"but I think to the layman,"

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and using that philosophy,

"and using that philosophy,"

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Did you ever sit in on-Were you ever in any of their meetings?

"Did you ever sit in on-Were you ever in any of their meetings?"

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When the cops come and stuff.

"When the cops come and stuff."

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I'm Dennis Woltering with Harvey Clarke at 62nd and Vine...

"I'm Dennis Woltering with Harvey Clarke at 62nd and Vine..."

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And what else did they say?

"And what else did they say?"

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And what else did they say about your wives?

"And what else did they say about your wives?"

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They said that our wives would be sleeping with other men before the end of the day.

"They said that our wives would be sleeping with other men before the end of the day."

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- Did they describe what other kind of men? - Yes, sir.

"- Did they describe what other kind of men? - Yes, sir."

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Do you recall what your reaction was to those statements?

"Do you recall what your reaction was to those statements?"

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which ls in the area.

"which ls in the area."

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The police began a deluge, which you can see here.

"The police began a deluge, which you can see here."

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Here comes some more tear gas down Addison Street.

"Here comes some more tear gas down Addison Street."

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But we don't know if the guns you're hearing

"But we don't know if the guns you're hearing"

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and I cannot explain it.

"and I cannot explain it."

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that it was the police that were firing at that time.

"that it was the police that were firing at that time."

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Once the MOVE members started firing,

"Once the MOVE members started firing,"

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- Including the children? - No.

"- Including the children? - No."

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That's as to the adults.

"That's as to the adults."

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We went downstairs.

"We went downstairs."

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We can say there's been at least a 15- or 20-minute break in the gunfights.

"We can say there's been at least a 15- or 20-minute break in the gunfights."

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Looking in the trunk of this car right here.

"Looking in the trunk of this car right here."

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Do you know how many rounds were fired that day?

"Do you know how many rounds were fired that day?"

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uh, and ran out.

"uh, and ran out."

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Let's come closer and use-and crouch down behind the Eyewitness News truck.

"Let's come closer and use-and crouch down behind the Eyewitness News truck."

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It appeared that things had gotten calm.

"It appeared that things had gotten calm."

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Gestapo-oriented cops out there that day.

"Gestapo-oriented cops out there that day."

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you were concerned that there may be physical harm...

"you were concerned that there may be physical harm..."

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Yes, ma'am.

"Yes, ma'am."

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they were in an enviable tactical position.

"they were in an enviable tactical position."

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they knew very clearly up front that we could not guarantee that, sir.

"they knew very clearly up front that we could not guarantee that, sir."

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But it appears that it's still there.

"But it appears that it's still there."

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At City Hall this afternoon,

"At City Hall this afternoon,"

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- What's going on, Harvey? - Larry, behind me you can probably see right now-

"- What's going on, Harvey? - Larry, behind me you can probably see right now-"

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In essence, in communication-

"In essence, in communication-"

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To whom?

"To whom?"

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I categorically deny that.

"I categorically deny that."

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Did it bother you? Did it burn your eyes or anything?

"Did it bother you? Did it burn your eyes or anything?"

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and that was never a consideration nor would I ever use it as a consideration.

"and that was never a consideration nor would I ever use it as a consideration."

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Well, fire Commissioner Richmond,

"Well, fire Commissioner Richmond,"

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There is no one that I know in city government...

"There is no one that I know in city government..."

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No question about that.

"No question about that."

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whole truth and nothing but the truth...

"whole truth and nothing but the truth..."

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Yes.

"Yes."

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Stakeout police have just taken position.

"Stakeout police have just taken position."

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and they're all scattering between 62nd and Osage and 63rd.

"and they're all scattering between 62nd and Osage and 63rd."

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when we smelled all that smoke, and we couldn't breathe,

"when we smelled all that smoke, and we couldn't breathe,"

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And what did the other children do? Did they do the same thing?

"And what did the other children do? Did they do the same thing?"

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that you observed either with your eyes or your ears...

"that you observed either with your eyes or your ears..."

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right here is a line of stakeout squad officers,

"right here is a line of stakeout squad officers,"

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And he stood up and aimed a rifle up in the direction of officer Bariana's position...

"And he stood up and aimed a rifle up in the direction of officer Bariana's position..."

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It was a-

"It was a-"

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Sergeant Griffiths, could you just by rapping on the table...

"Sergeant Griffiths, could you just by rapping on the table..."

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I just think they went back into that fire...

"I just think they went back into that fire..."

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And she would wave with her hand like this.

"And she would wave with her hand like this."

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You saw fire? Where did you see the fire?

"You saw fire? Where did you see the fire?"

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The pieces of the tree was falling down.

"The pieces of the tree was falling down."

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He got I believe one foot, maybe two, I don't know,

"He got I believe one foot, maybe two, I don't know,"

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He grabbed my left shoulder. He said, Don't go out there, Jim. It's a trap.

"He grabbed my left shoulder. He said, Don't go out there, Jim. It's a trap."

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My priorities at that time were the kid.

"My priorities at that time were the kid."

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We're trying to say to him, Son, come over here. Come over here.

"We're trying to say to him, Son, come over here. Come over here."

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We're trying to get him to come to us.

"We're trying to get him to come to us."

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I said, Mike, I'm getting the kid,

"I said, Mike, I'm getting the kid,"

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he said to me, Don't shoot me. Don't shoot me.

"he said to me, Don't shoot me. Don't shoot me."

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did they ask you anything about whether or not

"did they ask you anything about whether or not"

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Paul,

"Paul,"

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In the beginning, MOVE people...

"In the beginning, MOVE people..."

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We were jailed many, many times.

"We were jailed many, many times."

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It's the same thing,

"It's the same thing,"

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It's just that simple.

"It's just that simple."

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We felt-l thought about the kids in the house.

"We felt-l thought about the kids in the house."

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and very discouraging...

"and very discouraging..."

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