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Clips from Let The Fire Burn (2013)

By virtue of the fact that MOVE had construction on the roof...

"By virtue of the fact that MOVE had construction on the roof..."

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that gave them complete command of the Osage Avenue,

"that gave them complete command of the Osage Avenue,"

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The water cannon used during the MOVE standoff today...

"The water cannon used during the MOVE standoff today..."

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shoots an estimated 1,000 gallons of water a minute.

"shoots an estimated 1,000 gallons of water a minute."

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Sources say the purpose of the water is threefold.

"Sources say the purpose of the water is threefold."

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Secondly, the water increases humidity, which makes tear gas more effective.

"Secondly, the water increases humidity, which makes tear gas more effective."

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Thirdly, the powerful water pressure could cause the house to collapse.

"Thirdly, the powerful water pressure could cause the house to collapse."

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If that plan relied solely on the ability of our equipment to knock the bunker off,

"If that plan relied solely on the ability of our equipment to knock the bunker off,"

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Chris, I saw Police Commissioner Gregore Sambor about 45 minutes ago,

"Chris, I saw Police Commissioner Gregore Sambor about 45 minutes ago,"

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They're obviously somewhat startled by the way that

"They're obviously somewhat startled by the way that"

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Thousands of rounds spun off.

"Thousands of rounds spun off."

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Larry, for the first time, it's been quiet for several hours here.

"Larry, for the first time, it's been quiet for several hours here."

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The police helicopter did go back up, and I guess

"The police helicopter did go back up, and I guess"

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and we were told that that bunker was destroyed.

"and we were told that that bunker was destroyed."

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Okay, Harvey. They stopped the snorkel gun now.

"Okay, Harvey. They stopped the snorkel gun now."

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- There's no water on that roof. - For some time, the water has been turned off.

"- There's no water on that roof. - For some time, the water has been turned off."

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Mayor Goode appeared publicly for the first time since the siege began.

"Mayor Goode appeared publicly for the first time since the siege began."

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Goode said he's committed to removing MOVE from the structure.

"Goode said he's committed to removing MOVE from the structure."

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We intend to evict from the house.

"We intend to evict from the house."

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Something is starting to happen.

"Something is starting to happen."

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There is a big- The fire engine has fired up again.

"There is a big- The fire engine has fired up again."

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Its engine is on for the first time all afternoon.

"Its engine is on for the first time all afternoon."

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We just saw some police officers behind us have their hands over their ears.

"We just saw some police officers behind us have their hands over their ears."

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We don't know why. We can't hear anything at this point.

"We don't know why. We can't hear anything at this point."

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I must say that this tiny little flurry of activity...

"I must say that this tiny little flurry of activity..."

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is really the first bit of activity that there's been here all afternoon.

"is really the first bit of activity that there's been here all afternoon."

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Police say that they have a plan. They say it will be implemented shortly.

"Police say that they have a plan. They say it will be implemented shortly."

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We will tell you what it is when it happens.

"We will tell you what it is when it happens."

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that this might have been a dangerous device

"that this might have been a dangerous device"

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to use in a residential neighborhood?

"to use in a residential neighborhood?"

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- It did occur to you? - Yes, ma'am.

"- It did occur to you? - Yes, ma'am."

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I think that I was fully aware that it would, in fact, be used,

"I think that I was fully aware that it would, in fact, be used,"

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and it is my view that you can regard that...

"and it is my view that you can regard that..."

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...right there in a 10-15 foot hover above the roof.

"...right there in a 10-15 foot hover above the roof."

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We was down there for a while, and then everybody came down.

"We was down there for a while, and then everybody came down."

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- All the men came down? - That's when the big bomb went off.

"- All the men came down? - That's when the big bomb went off."

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It shook the whole house up.

"It shook the whole house up."

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Debris flew all over the place. I don't know what that explosion was.

"Debris flew all over the place. I don't know what that explosion was."

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All I can tell you is that it was a huge blast.

"All I can tell you is that it was a huge blast."

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Perhaps the most frightening thing here is that police do say...

"Perhaps the most frightening thing here is that police do say..."

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that six to eight children are believed to be inside the MOVE house.

"that six to eight children are believed to be inside the MOVE house."

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At this point, I simply do not know.

"At this point, I simply do not know."

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After the explosion, you saw that the bunker was still there.

"After the explosion, you saw that the bunker was still there."

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Yes, sir.

"Yes, sir."

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Did you observe any smoke or fire on the roof?

"Did you observe any smoke or fire on the roof?"

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I did not.

"I did not."

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demolished, and it's used all the time in mining.

"demolished, and it's used all the time in mining."

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if you're going to have an explosion, you're going to have a fire.

"if you're going to have an explosion, you're going to have a fire."

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There's no more smoke. And at this point, looking over my shoulder,

"There's no more smoke. And at this point, looking over my shoulder,"

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Okay, there is a new development at the MOVE building, 62nd and Osage.

"Okay, there is a new development at the MOVE building, 62nd and Osage."

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has apparently started a serious fire.

"has apparently started a serious fire."

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But the two deluge guns or sprinklers...

"But the two deluge guns or sprinklers..."

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Commissioner Sambor said to me.

"Commissioner Sambor said to me."

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He said let's let the bunker burn...

"He said let's let the bunker burn..."

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to eliminate that high ground advantage and the tactical advantage of the bunker.

"to eliminate that high ground advantage and the tactical advantage of the bunker."

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And I said, Yeah, okay.

"And I said, Yeah, okay."

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it was not an order.

"it was not an order."

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I communicated to him that I would like to let the fire burn.

"I communicated to him that I would like to let the fire burn."

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Larry, this is becoming a very emotional scene.

"Larry, this is becoming a very emotional scene."

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With me is Janice Walker.

"With me is Janice Walker."

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She lives at 6217 Osage,

"She lives at 6217 Osage,"

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- just two doors from the MOVE house. - Yes.

"- just two doors from the MOVE house. - Yes."

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I'm sure it's just destroyed, and it's just not fair.

"I'm sure it's just destroyed, and it's just not fair."

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We've been there over 20 years, and we didn't have to have to go through this.

"We've been there over 20 years, and we didn't have to have to go through this."

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We only left with a few odds and ends, you know, for the night.

"We only left with a few odds and ends, you know, for the night."

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We had no idea it was gonna be this devastating.

"We had no idea it was gonna be this devastating."

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and they just, you know-

"and they just, you know-"

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Their properties have just gone up in smoke.

"Their properties have just gone up in smoke."

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to be some water coming in.

"to be some water coming in."

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And after about five minutes of watching that,

"And after about five minutes of watching that,"

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I gave what was my first order of the day,

"I gave what was my first order of the day,"

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that at approximately 6:00 on the evening of May 13,

"that at approximately 6:00 on the evening of May 13,"

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I heard the testimony, yes, sir.

"I heard the testimony, yes, sir."

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there had been any order to put the fire out?

"there had been any order to put the fire out?"

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- To whom? - The fire commissioner was still there.

"- To whom? - The fire commissioner was still there."

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- Those responses were Commissioner Sambor, sir? - Yes, sir.

"- Those responses were Commissioner Sambor, sir? - Yes, sir."

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I had no knowledge of an order to extinguish that fire.

"I had no knowledge of an order to extinguish that fire."

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Was there any smoke or tear gas in the garage when you were down there?

"Was there any smoke or tear gas in the garage when you were down there?"

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- Or was there tear gas? - It was smoke and tear gas.

"- Or was there tear gas? - It was smoke and tear gas."

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Smoke and tear gas?

"Smoke and tear gas?"

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And what did you all do?

"And what did you all do?"

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- Were all the kids under blankets? - Mm-hmm.

"- Were all the kids under blankets? - Mm-hmm."

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- Where were the women? - Under blankets.

"- Where were the women? - Under blankets."

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Mm-hmm.

"Mm-hmm."

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- How did the blankets get wet? - 'Cause we had 'em in the bucket.

"- How did the blankets get wet? - 'Cause we had 'em in the bucket."

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Isn't it true, Commissioner Sambor and fire Commissioner Richmond,

"Isn't it true, Commissioner Sambor and fire Commissioner Richmond,"

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that you in effect made a decision to use fire as a weapon in this instance?

"that you in effect made a decision to use fire as a weapon in this instance?"

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Well, you made a decision to let that fire burn until the bunker was destroyed.

"Well, you made a decision to let that fire burn until the bunker was destroyed."

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you talk about a weapon as being used against probably individuals,

"you talk about a weapon as being used against probably individuals,"

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what did you understand the police commissioner was asking you to do?

"what did you understand the police commissioner was asking you to do?"

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I would respond in the same way, Justice Kaufmann.

"I would respond in the same way, Justice Kaufmann."

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that would intentionally go out there to burn those people like that.

"that would intentionally go out there to burn those people like that."

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There's no one that I know of could do that.

"There's no one that I know of could do that."

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that a situation had developed...

"that a situation had developed..."

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Yes, sir.

"Yes, sir."

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as to whether or not the officers who were

"as to whether or not the officers who were"

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I did not.

"I did not."

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which may take the police action beyond the legal limits?

"which may take the police action beyond the legal limits?"

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I think there's no question there was, at least

"I think there's no question there was, at least"

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on the part of some policemen, residual anger...

"on the part of some policemen, residual anger..."

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towards MOVE organization or members thereof.

"towards MOVE organization or members thereof."

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Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the

"Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the"

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- so help you God? - I do.

"- so help you God? - I do."

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What does that have to do with May the 13th?

"What does that have to do with May the 13th?"

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Officer, we understand that you were charged in connection with that case,

"Officer, we understand that you were charged in connection with that case,"

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verdict by Judge Dibona of not guilty in that case.

"verdict by Judge Dibona of not guilty in that case."

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- Is that correct? - That's correct.

"- Is that correct? - That's correct."

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When the fire got real heavy,

"When the fire got real heavy,"

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then that's when we started yelling that kids coming out,

"then that's when we started yelling that kids coming out,"

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What did you say? What did you yell?

"What did you say? What did you yell?"

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- Were any of the children crying? - Yeah. We all was.

"- Were any of the children crying? - Yeah. We all was."

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- Why had you all gone to the back alley? - To prevent the escape of MOVE members.

"- Why had you all gone to the back alley? - To prevent the escape of MOVE members."

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Well, what did you expect to find in that alley,

"Well, what did you expect to find in that alley,"

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Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth...

"Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth..."

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Your vantage point was to the back of 6221.

"Your vantage point was to the back of 6221."

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I heard a female scream, Don't shoot. We're coming out.

"I heard a female scream, Don't shoot. We're coming out."

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Officer Trudel said, They're coming out.

"Officer Trudel said, They're coming out."

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take a look so I can point to the monitor here,

"take a look so I can point to the monitor here,"

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You said that Rad tried to take Tomaso out?

"You said that Rad tried to take Tomaso out?"

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He was on his knees, and he had Tomaso around his stomach like that.

"He was on his knees, and he had Tomaso around his stomach like that."

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