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Clips from Let The Fire Burn (2013)

Ramona Africa, the MOVE spokesperson in recent weeks, is in police custody tonight.

"Ramona Africa, the MOVE spokesperson in recent weeks, is in police custody tonight."

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She was captured outside the MOVE compound...

"She was captured outside the MOVE compound..."

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sometime after the massive fire broke out there this afternoon.

"sometime after the massive fire broke out there this afternoon."

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All officials know at this point about his identity is that his last name is Africa.

"All officials know at this point about his identity is that his last name is Africa."

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As we face the coming days,

"As we face the coming days,"

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And in the beginning,

"And in the beginning,"

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And I'm talking about a people...

"And I'm talking about a people..."

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who had feelings,

"who had feelings,"

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If the system can convict me of riot and conspiracy...

"If the system can convict me of riot and conspiracy..."

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in a blatant situation like that...

"in a blatant situation like that..."

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then it should not be hard to imagine at all...

"then it should not be hard to imagine at all..."

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- I couldn't answer that. - Mm-hmm.

"- I couldn't answer that. - Mm-hmm."

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Uh, very depressing...

"Uh, very depressing..."

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That will bring a smile to your face, won't it?

"That will bring a smile to your face, won't it?"

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This will conclude this deposition of testimony...

"This will conclude this deposition of testimony..."

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of Michael, uh, Ward.

"of Michael, uh, Ward."

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which tell the story of the Osage Avenue tragedy.

"which tell the story of the Osage Avenue tragedy."

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Michael, uh, you remember me from the last time you and I talked?

"Michael, uh, you remember me from the last time you and I talked?"

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You see this camera? You're going to have to say yes...

"You see this camera? You're going to have to say yes..."

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Can you say yes for us? Let me hear you say, yes. Yes.

"Can you say yes for us? Let me hear you say, yes. Yes."

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- You remember that? - Yeah.

"- You remember that? - Yeah."

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Okay. What does it mean when you have to tell the truth about things?

"Okay. What does it mean when you have to tell the truth about things?"

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And do you know what happens to people who lie?

"And do you know what happens to people who lie?"

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- Hmm? - Yeah.

"- Hmm? - Yeah."

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- What happens to them? - They get hurt.

"- What happens to them? - They get hurt."

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They get hurt.

"They get hurt."

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possibly roaming the alleyways.

"possibly roaming the alleyways."

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Going in, everybody knew that MOVE would resist anything.

"Going in, everybody knew that MOVE would resist anything."

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While the police will say that they come here to arrest people,

"While the police will say that they come here to arrest people,"

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we have done nothing wrong.

"we have done nothing wrong."

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Okay. This is unconfirmed. We've got to emphasize this is unconfirmed.

"Okay. This is unconfirmed. We've got to emphasize this is unconfirmed."

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We expect that maybe 60, perhaps more, homes have gone up in flames.

"We expect that maybe 60, perhaps more, homes have gone up in flames."

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I stand fully accountable for the actions that took place tonight.

"I stand fully accountable for the actions that took place tonight."

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How did an attempt to arrest MOVE members become an inferno that killed 11 people...

"How did an attempt to arrest MOVE members become an inferno that killed 11 people..."

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That was a decision... to let the fire burn.

"That was a decision... to let the fire burn."

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and a small, urban group known as MOVE...

"and a small, urban group known as MOVE..."

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ended in a violent, daylong encounter...

"ended in a violent, daylong encounter..."

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between the groups' members and the Philadelphia police.

"between the groups' members and the Philadelphia police."

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Before we call the first witness...

"Before we call the first witness..."

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I want to tell you about this special commission.

"I want to tell you about this special commission."

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We are men and women, black and white,

"We are men and women, black and white,"

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Their personal appearance has brought stares and

"Their personal appearance has brought stares and"

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some expressions of disapproval from the community.

"some expressions of disapproval from the community."

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that revolution only meant picking up a gun and going out and murdering somebody.

"that revolution only meant picking up a gun and going out and murdering somebody."

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to get away from the things that caused me to wanna revolt.

"to get away from the things that caused me to wanna revolt."

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and they have no electricity.

"and they have no electricity."

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But they do have cars, and they have a telephone. Why?

"But they do have cars, and they have a telephone. Why?"

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What did John Africa teach with regard to the

"What did John Africa teach with regard to the"

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You're asking what was being taught?

"You're asking what was being taught?"

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Okay. Um, the absolute truth.

"Okay. Um, the absolute truth."

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What John Africa did was... expose the lie in the system.

"What John Africa did was... expose the lie in the system."

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Uncover it.

"Uncover it."

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The system. The establishment. You.

"The system. The establishment. You."

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Trash piles up at the curbline.

"Trash piles up at the curbline."

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Abandoned homes pockmark the ghetto.

"Abandoned homes pockmark the ghetto."

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A small, vocal minority among us...

"A small, vocal minority among us..."

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seeks to destroy the heritage of 1776.

"seeks to destroy the heritage of 1776."

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We must be ever-vigilant that this minority does not impose its philosophy...

"We must be ever-vigilant that this minority does not impose its philosophy..."

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on the unwilling majority of Americans.

"on the unwilling majority of Americans."

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Yeah, life.

"Yeah, life."

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- Why not? - I don't want to be personal.

"- Why not? - I don't want to be personal."

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- Wait a minute. Why not? - Yes, we are.

"- Wait a minute. Why not? - Yes, we are."

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We are animals, because our reference is no different than the reference of animals.

"We are animals, because our reference is no different than the reference of animals."

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There's only one reference, and that's life.

"There's only one reference, and that's life."

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That's what MOVE is about. Life. Truth. That's our religion.

"That's what MOVE is about. Life. Truth. That's our religion."

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because of his carpentry, because of his simple way of living, and so forth.

"because of his carpentry, because of his simple way of living, and so forth."

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But when MOVE wanted to practice their religion, people started talking about, uh,

"But when MOVE wanted to practice their religion, people started talking about, uh,"

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There are Catholics and Methodists, evangelists, theologians, you name it.

"There are Catholics and Methodists, evangelists, theologians, you name it."

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We were the religion of life.

"We were the religion of life."

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When Michael was about two years of age, he was taken by his mother...

"When Michael was about two years of age, he was taken by his mother..."

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to a residence occupied by members of an organization called MOVE.

"to a residence occupied by members of an organization called MOVE."

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Michael Ward was, of course, no more a member of MOVE...

"Michael Ward was, of course, no more a member of MOVE..."

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than a child of Republican or Democratic parents...

"than a child of Republican or Democratic parents..."

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would be styled by a particular party label.

"would be styled by a particular party label."

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Now, when you go to school and you embrace that education,

"Now, when you go to school and you embrace that education,"

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the very first thing you are taught in school is separation...

"the very first thing you are taught in school is separation..."

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is categorization, alienation, conflict.

"is categorization, alienation, conflict."

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You know, if a child does not know that he is black and I am white,

"You know, if a child does not know that he is black and I am white,"

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if he is not taught that separation,

"if he is not taught that separation,"

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all he can know is harmony, is unity, is love.

"all he can know is harmony, is unity, is love."

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Some of it? What did you like particularly?

"Some of it? What did you like particularly?"

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Watermelon, mangoes...

"Watermelon, mangoes..."

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And onions. Did you all eat any meat at all?

"And onions. Did you all eat any meat at all?"

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Why would the adults eat cooked food and the

"Why would the adults eat cooked food and the"

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children not eat cooked food? Do you know?

"children not eat cooked food? Do you know?"

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They said they wasn't used to raw food.

"They said they wasn't used to raw food."

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They weren't used to raw food and the children were used to raw food.

"They weren't used to raw food and the children were used to raw food."

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Were you all ever punished for taking the food or anything?

"Were you all ever punished for taking the food or anything?"

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Yeah. Did they punish you when you...

"Yeah. Did they punish you when you..."

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- They had meetings on us. - They had meetings?

"- They had meetings on us. - They had meetings?"

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Would they ever hit the children?

"Would they ever hit the children?"

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Uh, so you didn't get any spankings or anything like that?

"Uh, so you didn't get any spankings or anything like that?"

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- They didn't believe in spanking. - They didn't believe in spankings.

"- They didn't believe in spanking. - They didn't believe in spankings."

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I see. Did you, uh-When they holler at the children, what would the children do?

"I see. Did you, uh-When they holler at the children, what would the children do?"

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- Did you cry when you were hollered at? - Yeah.

"- Did you cry when you were hollered at? - Yeah."

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Did you love them?

"Did you love them?"

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We had a number of rap sessions with youngsters...

"We had a number of rap sessions with youngsters..."

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in terms of trying to offer a different point of view.

"in terms of trying to offer a different point of view."

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No, it basically appeared to be a progressive, uh, political organization...

"No, it basically appeared to be a progressive, uh, political organization..."

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that impacted on the black community.

"that impacted on the black community."

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Officer Cresse, was there any indication that you were aware of...

"Officer Cresse, was there any indication that you were aware of..."

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that, uh, the MOVE members were potentially violent?

"that, uh, the MOVE members were potentially violent?"

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They can put out weird things like you can hear me use profanity.

"They can put out weird things like you can hear me use profanity."

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But is it possible to describe a maniac, a profane, obscene, pornographic freak...

"But is it possible to describe a maniac, a profane, obscene, pornographic freak..."

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So what you doin' arrogantly gaveling us down?

"So what you doin' arrogantly gaveling us down?"

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- This is not a forum for your political views. - What is it?

"- This is not a forum for your political views. - What is it?"

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- Do you understand that? - Do you understand that I was brought here...

"- Do you understand that? - Do you understand that I was brought here..."

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because of my beliefs, because of my views?

"because of my beliefs, because of my views?"

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I object. I think the witness, at this point,

"I object. I think the witness, at this point,"

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is badgering the judge.

"is badgering the judge."

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They were, in fact, telling the truth in the courtroom,

"They were, in fact, telling the truth in the courtroom,"

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and because the judge could not dispute it,

"and because the judge could not dispute it,"

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because the judge had went to Harvard and Yale and Cornell...

"because the judge had went to Harvard and Yale and Cornell..."

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to learn what law was.

"to learn what law was."

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They could not understand how a people could stand there,

"They could not understand how a people could stand there,"

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looking as they did, but yet knowing more, in fact, than they did.

"looking as they did, but yet knowing more, in fact, than they did."

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And this called for many contempts, many beatings in the courtroom.

"And this called for many contempts, many beatings in the courtroom."

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And it was like a repeat over and over again.

"And it was like a repeat over and over again."

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Twenty-four-hour surveillance was established at the MOVE compound...

"Twenty-four-hour surveillance was established at the MOVE compound..."

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at 309 North 33rd Street.

"at 309 North 33rd Street."

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