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Clips from Let The Fire Burn (2013)

Yes, sir. Could you describe that, sir?

"Yes, sir. Could you describe that, sir?"

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Okay.

"Okay."

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On March 28 of this year, at about 4:00 in the morning,

"On March 28 of this year, at about 4:00 in the morning,"

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But someone in the neighborhood complained to the police.

"But someone in the neighborhood complained to the police."

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controversy that has yet to be investigated.

"controversy that has yet to be investigated."

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Somehow an argument led to a scuffle.

"Somehow an argument led to a scuffle."

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By the time it was over, six policemen reported injuries,

"By the time it was over, six policemen reported injuries,"

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We went upstairs to inquire reporters there.

"We went upstairs to inquire reporters there."

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And we saw- We were led into a dark room,

"And we saw- We were led into a dark room,"

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and we saw what appeared to be the remains of a baby.

"and we saw what appeared to be the remains of a baby."

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in a police raid.

"in a police raid."

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and that it was a racial problem.

"and that it was a racial problem."

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Shortly thereafter, I received some letters...

"Shortly thereafter, I received some letters..."

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from the people who live on 32nd and Pearl Street.

"from the people who live on 32nd and Pearl Street."

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And they indicated that they were displeased

"And they indicated that they were displeased"

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And I went to the meeting expecting to see...

"And I went to the meeting expecting to see..."

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mostly Caucasian people complaining about MOVE.

"mostly Caucasian people complaining about MOVE."

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And I was surprised when I entered the home...

"And I was surprised when I entered the home..."

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that most of the people there were-were black people, just ordinary black people.

"that most of the people there were-were black people, just ordinary black people."

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And for the first time I realized that it was not a racial problem with MOVE.

"And for the first time I realized that it was not a racial problem with MOVE."

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But that it was something else that I just did not understand.

"But that it was something else that I just did not understand."

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And then I learned that unless you did everything that they wanted you to do,

"And then I learned that unless you did everything that they wanted you to do,"

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uh, you were an enemy.

"uh, you were an enemy."

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On May 20, 1977, MOVE brandished weapons...

"On May 20, 1977, MOVE brandished weapons..."

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from their Powelton Village headquarters platform...

"from their Powelton Village headquarters platform..."

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without a like response.

"without a like response."

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To your knowledge, did any of the members of the

"To your knowledge, did any of the members of the"

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- Not to my knowledge. - Nor mine.

"- Not to my knowledge. - Nor mine."

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Have you ever seen the pictures of May 20, 1977, at Powelton Village,

"Have you ever seen the pictures of May 20, 1977, at Powelton Village,"

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where people are carrying what appear, at least, to be weapons?

"where people are carrying what appear, at least, to be weapons?"

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Yes, I have.

"Yes, I have."

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Were those members of the MOVE organization?

"Were those members of the MOVE organization?"

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Yes, they were.

"Yes, they were."

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I don't want anyone to think that I'm insulting their intelligence,

"I don't want anyone to think that I'm insulting their intelligence,"

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regardless to what it looks like,

"regardless to what it looks like,"

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and it is found to be inoperable,

"and it is found to be inoperable,"

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But let me be clear.

"But let me be clear."

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This can be a weapon.

"This can be a weapon."

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But I'm talking about to the point of a weapon that can fire.

"But I'm talking about to the point of a weapon that can fire."

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It's just like you said. What appeared to be weapons.

"It's just like you said. What appeared to be weapons."

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It was the point which it became clear...

"It was the point which it became clear..."

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that MOVE, in fact, could become a violent organization.

"that MOVE, in fact, could become a violent organization."

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Uh, would, in fact, fight,

"Uh, would, in fact, fight,"

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would, in fact, use weapons in order to accomplish their mission.

"would, in fact, use weapons in order to accomplish their mission."

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We'll do what's necessary.

"We'll do what's necessary."

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- What is that? - The strategy of John Africa.

"- What is that? - The strategy of John Africa."

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- What is that? - Our only defense.

"- What is that? - Our only defense."

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- What is that? - The strategy of John Africa.

"- What is that? - The strategy of John Africa."

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Hey, I wouldn't tell my strategy to you.

"Hey, I wouldn't tell my strategy to you."

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We ain't talkin' about hurtin' nobody's religion.

"We ain't talkin' about hurtin' nobody's religion."

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We ain't talkin' about killin' off nobody's religion.

"We ain't talkin' about killin' off nobody's religion."

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Don't question the person tellin' the truth.

"Don't question the person tellin' the truth."

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All right!

"All right!"

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Only in a democracy could they get away with what they're getting away with.

"Only in a democracy could they get away with what they're getting away with."

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People are people regardless of their color, their skin,

"People are people regardless of their color, their skin,"

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their religion, their race or nothin'.

"their religion, their race or nothin'."

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They're still people. They can bleed. They can die.

"They're still people. They can bleed. They can die."

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They can catch diseases. We can all go through the same situations.

"They can catch diseases. We can all go through the same situations."

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And it's all going to boil down to a bunch of

"And it's all going to boil down to a bunch of"

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people getting hurt and killed over nothin'.

"people getting hurt and killed over nothin'."

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Over nothin' that doesn't really make any sense.

"Over nothin' that doesn't really make any sense."

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At 6:10 a.m., Mayor Rizzo finally, after 15 months of confrontation,

"At 6:10 a.m., Mayor Rizzo finally, after 15 months of confrontation,"

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used the force he threatened all along.

"used the force he threatened all along."

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They're going to be taken by force if they resist.

"They're going to be taken by force if they resist."

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If police come in there with their hands, we'll use our hands.

"If police come in there with their hands, we'll use our hands."

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If they come in here with clubs, we'll use clubs.

"If they come in here with clubs, we'll use clubs."

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But if they come in here shootin' and killin' our women and children and our men,

"But if they come in here shootin' and killin' our women and children and our men,"

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we will shoot back in defense of our lives.

"we will shoot back in defense of our lives."

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You always get in there faster with more than is necessary, and you overpower them.

"You always get in there faster with more than is necessary, and you overpower them."

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Stakeout personnel, using body shields,

"Stakeout personnel, using body shields,"

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cover fireman as they position a portable deluge gun closer to the compound.

"cover fireman as they position a portable deluge gun closer to the compound."

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Officers and firemen are wounded by gunfire.

"Officers and firemen are wounded by gunfire."

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First deluge gun goes out of control.

"First deluge gun goes out of control."

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Other officers and firemen move in to pull the wounded personnel...

"Other officers and firemen move in to pull the wounded personnel..."

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has now been mortally wounded.

"has now been mortally wounded."

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crawls over and attempts to shield officer Ramp.

"crawls over and attempts to shield officer Ramp."

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Mr. Rendell, um,

"Mr. Rendell, um,"

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did you consider the MOVE organization to be a terrorist group?

"did you consider the MOVE organization to be a terrorist group?"

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Uh, they had demonstrated a willingness to use violence, force...

"Uh, they had demonstrated a willingness to use violence, force..."

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or the threat of violence or force to achieve their objectives.

"or the threat of violence or force to achieve their objectives."

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It was almost difficult, if not well nigh impossible,

"It was almost difficult, if not well nigh impossible,"

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to deal with them in any rational basis...

"to deal with them in any rational basis..."

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that their stated goals as a group that was a

"that their stated goals as a group that was a"

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back-to-nature group were, frankly, a bunch of bull.

"back-to-nature group were, frankly, a bunch of bull."

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People who have killed one person,

"People who have killed one person,"

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people who threaten to shoot and kill neighbors, police, elected officials-

"people who threaten to shoot and kill neighbors, police, elected officials-"

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I think that's a pretty adequate description of the word terrorist.

"I think that's a pretty adequate description of the word terrorist."

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the police used commendable restraint, uh, and it was done for many reasons.

"the police used commendable restraint, uh, and it was done for many reasons."

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that the police would make a violent assault on the MOVE members.

"that the police would make a violent assault on the MOVE members."

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As it turned out, the police acted with precision and restraint.

"As it turned out, the police acted with precision and restraint."

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When one of the MOVE members came out of the

"When one of the MOVE members came out of the"

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a clip and with a knife in the other,

"a clip and with a knife in the other,"

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and was taken into custody.

"and was taken into custody."

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That's what you're referring to.

"That's what you're referring to."

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He's hittin' him. He's hittin' him.

"He's hittin' him. He's hittin' him."

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to have killed all of the 12 people in that basement.

"to have killed all of the 12 people in that basement."

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Do you believe this is a symbolic gesture,

"Do you believe this is a symbolic gesture,"

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There's a suspicion that some shots had come from elsewhere.

"There's a suspicion that some shots had come from elsewhere."

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Walt Hunter from WCAU, by the way, swears that

"Walt Hunter from WCAU, by the way, swears that"

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People who know us know that we're not terrorists.

"People who know us know that we're not terrorists."

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We fight cops because they're dirty. They're filthy. They're criminal.

"We fight cops because they're dirty. They're filthy. They're criminal."

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The sad part of it is that this incident is not yet over.

"The sad part of it is that this incident is not yet over."

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Long live John Africa! it's the MOVE organization.

"Long live John Africa! it's the MOVE organization."

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What they should have done is shot that goddamn bum,

"What they should have done is shot that goddamn bum,"

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This police department in Philadelphia could invade Cuba and win.

"This police department in Philadelphia could invade Cuba and win."

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What I'm saying, Tom Snyder, is that we are now trained and equipped to fight wars.

"What I'm saying, Tom Snyder, is that we are now trained and equipped to fight wars."

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Four more years, hell no! No more Rizzo! Got to go!

"Four more years, hell no! No more Rizzo! Got to go!"

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Four more years, hell no! No more Rizzo! Got to go!

"Four more years, hell no! No more Rizzo! Got to go!"

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Leapheart was asked how he felt when the verdict was read.

"Leapheart was asked how he felt when the verdict was read."

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What are your plans in terms of staying in

"What are your plans in terms of staying in"

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It's not a cult. It's an organization.

"It's not a cult. It's an organization."

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When you appear to be different...

"When you appear to be different..."

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and you will do things out of the norm.

"and you will do things out of the norm."

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Did you ever think about leaving MOVE?

"Did you ever think about leaving MOVE?"

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Yeah.

"Yeah."

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- Uh, when was that? - A long time ago.

"- Uh, when was that? - A long time ago."

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You couldn't do what the other kids did?

"You couldn't do what the other kids did?"

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who were outside of MOVE that you couldn't do?

"who were outside of MOVE that you couldn't do?"

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Uh, play with toys and stuff and ride bikes and watch TV.

"Uh, play with toys and stuff and ride bikes and watch TV."

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Did you tell anyone that you wanted to leave?

"Did you tell anyone that you wanted to leave?"

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