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Clips from Let The Fire Burn (2013)

What was the response of the MOVE organization...

"What was the response of the MOVE organization..."

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Uh, they said that, uh,

"Uh, they said that, uh,"

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that all of our wives would be widows.

"that all of our wives would be widows."

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The police went in about five minutes to 6:00.

"The police went in about five minutes to 6:00."

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Just four minutes ago, they pumped tear gas in...

"Just four minutes ago, they pumped tear gas in..."

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That water's actually being pumped in...

"That water's actually being pumped in..."

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it's a very surreal kind of scene.

"it's a very surreal kind of scene."

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Very calm men standing around...

"Very calm men standing around..."

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This apparently has expanded...

"This apparently has expanded..."

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from the house safely.

"from the house safely."

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It was to be done by causing a diversion on the roof,

"It was to be done by causing a diversion on the roof,"

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to make those people come out of the house.

"to make those people come out of the house."

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Okay. Steve, at this point we're being forced to leave our position.

"Okay. Steve, at this point we're being forced to leave our position."

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The police are now moving Harvey Clarke.

"The police are now moving Harvey Clarke."

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- I'm just trying to determine how you have that knowledge. - No, sir, I did not.

"- I'm just trying to determine how you have that knowledge. - No, sir, I did not."

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But one of the other teams reported that they were receiving hostile fire.

"But one of the other teams reported that they were receiving hostile fire."

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- Did it sound like automatic fire to you? - It did. Yes, sir.

"- Did it sound like automatic fire to you? - It did. Yes, sir."

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MOVE did have some weaponry either in the house or nearby.

"MOVE did have some weaponry either in the house or nearby."

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As you know, Commissioner,

"As you know, Commissioner,"

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Did the adults tell you to go downstairs?

"Did the adults tell you to go downstairs?"

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Now, we know that the children wasn't doing any shooting.

"Now, we know that the children wasn't doing any shooting."

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that they would have been using any type of weapons?

"that they would have been using any type of weapons?"

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We don't know what this signifies.

"We don't know what this signifies."

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The police are unloading Winchester cartridge shells...

"The police are unloading Winchester cartridge shells..."

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from the back of a highway patrol car.

"from the back of a highway patrol car."

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Let's-Let's come closer.

"Let's-Let's come closer."

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Oh, my God!

"Oh, my God!"

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Get down, lady. Get down. Yeah.

"Get down, lady. Get down. Yeah."

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I heard shots being fired, and cops was in the alleyway.

"I heard shots being fired, and cops was in the alleyway."

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whether she is a relative of one of the MOVE members or not.

"whether she is a relative of one of the MOVE members or not."

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Did you have a concern...

"Did you have a concern..."

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that the people inside of that house...

"that the people inside of that house..."

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- Miss- - We-Excuse me.

"- Miss- - We-Excuse me."

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You had, that day, a police officer by the name of Mulvihill...

"You had, that day, a police officer by the name of Mulvihill..."

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I can hear you fine, Mrs. James.

"I can hear you fine, Mrs. James."

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access over the roofs...

"access over the roofs..."

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First, to disorient the people inside the house.

"First, to disorient the people inside the house."

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and able to take the water barrage and the bullets that flew in there this morning.

"and able to take the water barrage and the bullets that flew in there this morning."

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We had reports-What you see in front there,

"We had reports-What you see in front there,"

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the yellow tarp is the front of that building,

"the yellow tarp is the front of that building,"

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- How will you do that? - We will do it by any means necessary.

"- How will you do that? - We will do it by any means necessary."

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It's been very quiet.

"It's been very quiet."

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Reporting live from 62nd and Delancey, this is Chris Wagner, Channel 6 Action News.

"Reporting live from 62nd and Delancey, this is Chris Wagner, Channel 6 Action News."

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Yes, ma'am.

"Yes, ma'am."

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By not vetoing it,

"By not vetoing it,"

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as an approval of using the explosive on the roof, yes.

"as an approval of using the explosive on the roof, yes."

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And I was right on the left-hand side of the helicopter right here.

"And I was right on the left-hand side of the helicopter right here."

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We don't know what it means, but it just shook the whole place.

"We don't know what it means, but it just shook the whole place."

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Get a shot with me. Get a sh-

"Get a shot with me. Get a sh-"

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- Harvey, can you hear us? - At this point, I really can't tell you very much.

"- Harvey, can you hear us? - At this point, I really can't tell you very much."

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And-I did hear over the radio that there was none.

"And-I did hear over the radio that there was none."

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But that's not necessarily so.

"But that's not necessarily so."

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that the satchel charge, or whatever- the explosive or bomb...

"that the satchel charge, or whatever- the explosive or bomb..."

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that was dropped on the MOVE compound just a few minutes ago...

"that was dropped on the MOVE compound just a few minutes ago..."

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that they've been pumping water in from Pine Street are not active now.

"that they've been pumping water in from Pine Street are not active now."

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I wanted to be able to somehow have tactical superiority...

"I wanted to be able to somehow have tactical superiority..."

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And you're afraid that your house may be on fire.

"And you're afraid that your house may be on fire."

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You've got innocent people that live around there on Osage Avenue,

"You've got innocent people that live around there on Osage Avenue,"

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I saw what appeared...

"I saw what appeared..."

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I determined later that that was not water at all...

"I determined later that that was not water at all..."

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but was basically the kind of snow on my television screen.

"but was basically the kind of snow on my television screen."

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Do you know whether or not...

"Do you know whether or not..."

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Yes, sir.

"Yes, sir."

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- Did you convey that order to anyone else? - Yes, sir.

"- Did you convey that order to anyone else? - Yes, sir."

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The fire commissioner was still there.

"The fire commissioner was still there."

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They were under blankets? Now, you said the blankets were wet.

"They were under blankets? Now, you said the blankets were wet."

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Bucket of water.

"Bucket of water."

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specifically involved in that altercation...

"specifically involved in that altercation..."

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should or should not be included in the operation for May 13, 1985?

"should or should not be included in the operation for May 13, 1985?"

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Would the court reporter please swear in the witnesses?

"Would the court reporter please swear in the witnesses?"

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and also we understand that there was a direct

"and also we understand that there was a direct"

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There must be movement somewhere in the Osage,

"There must be movement somewhere in the Osage,"

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These are live pictures. They are looking for something there.

"These are live pictures. They are looking for something there."

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You can hear hollering. Where it was coming from, Larry, I don't know.

"You can hear hollering. Where it was coming from, Larry, I don't know."

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and then they opened the garage door and opened the cellar window.

"and then they opened the garage door and opened the cellar window."

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We were saying, We wanna come out!

"We were saying, We wanna come out!"

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We wanna come out?

"We wanna come out?"

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Yeah.

"Yeah."

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the reason why you took a machine gun back there?

"the reason why you took a machine gun back there?"

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I had no idea what to expect in the alley.

"I had no idea what to expect in the alley."

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- and nothing but the truth so help you God? - I do.

"- and nothing but the truth so help you God? - I do."

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people attempting to come out of that house?

"people attempting to come out of that house?"

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and they seem to be lined up at the ready waiting for something to happen.

"and they seem to be lined up at the ready waiting for something to happen."

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Mm-hmm.

"Mm-hmm."

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Rad was.

"Rad was."

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A big monkey wrench.

"A big monkey wrench."

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No, sir. When this- I know a rifle, believe me.

"No, sir. When this- I know a rifle, believe me."

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Like it was just going after-

"Like it was just going after-"

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indicate the sound the best you can recall of those shots?

"indicate the sound the best you can recall of those shots?"

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I believe the child went back into the house.

"I believe the child went back into the house."

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Do you have any idea why that person may have gone back into the fire?

"Do you have any idea why that person may have gone back into the fire?"

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My own idea? What I think?

"My own idea? What I think?"

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and in front of me there are people who are saying come on out.

"and in front of me there are people who are saying come on out."

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I'm trying to imagine...

"I'm trying to imagine..."

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what would cause me to turn back and run into the fire.

"what would cause me to turn back and run into the fire."

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It's probably a rhetorical question.

"It's probably a rhetorical question."

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responded, I don't think you can answer that.

"responded, I don't think you can answer that."

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Was he crying then?

"Was he crying then?"

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I didn't hear nobody, and I just ran out of there.

"I didn't hear nobody, and I just ran out of there."

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Oh, my goodness.

"Oh, my goodness."

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It just looked like something was completely engulfed.

"It just looked like something was completely engulfed."

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What you're seeing now-

"What you're seeing now-"

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You're telling me that the flames are now leaping high?

"You're telling me that the flames are now leaping high?"

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They told us to stay together.

"They told us to stay together."

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- She's on the walkway, the elevated walkway? - That's right.

"- She's on the walkway, the elevated walkway? - That's right."

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Birdie's in the driveway.

"Birdie's in the driveway."

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and she goes over to the railing and reached over and tried to pick Birdie up.

"and she goes over to the railing and reached over and tried to pick Birdie up."

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If you're watching somebody or somebody falls...

"If you're watching somebody or somebody falls..."

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you can almost feel it.

"you can almost feel it."

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What was your concern, officer?

"What was your concern, officer?"

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It's not right or something to that effect.

"It's not right or something to that effect."

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inadvertently, Birdie gets up.

"inadvertently, Birdie gets up."

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He fell?

"He fell?"

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I interpreted it as a fall or stumble or whatever.

"I interpreted it as a fall or stumble or whatever."

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As soon as he went down in the water,

"As soon as he went down in the water,"

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and I scooped him underneath his left arm.

"and I scooped him underneath his left arm."

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Was his head submerged under the water?

"Was his head submerged under the water?"

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Tomaso and Melissa,

"Tomaso and Melissa,"

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and the big people were Theresa, Rhonda,

"and the big people were Theresa, Rhonda,"

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Nick...

"Nick..."

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